Yesterday we showed you the changes in the Sinnoh Gym Leaders in Pokemon Platinum. Now it’s time for the main event. It’s time to see what your last Rival battle, the Elite Four and the Pokemon Champion have in store for you.
After playing through Pokemon Diamond or Pokemon Pearl, you know what to expect from your hyperactive friend/rival. Back in D/P your rival had the following Pokemon:
| If Your Starter is Turwig | If Your Starter is Chimchar | If Your Starter is Piplup |
| Staraptor: Level 48 | Staraptor: Level 48 | Staraptor: Level 48 |
| Floatzel: Level 49 | Rapidash: Level 49 | Floatzel: Level 49 |
| Heracross: Level 50 | Heracross: Level 50 | Heracross: Level 50 |
| Roserade: Level 49 | Roserade: Level 49 | Rapidash: Level 49 |
| Snorlax: Level 51 | Snorlax: Level 51 | Snorlax: Level 51 |
| Infernape: Level 53 | Empoleon: Level 53 | Torterra: Level 53 |
Oddly enough, with Pokemon Platinum, you’re going to have a much easier time. Not only are your rival lineups the same as in Pokemon Diamond and Pearl, but they’re actually at a reduced level. This is a change from the Gym Leaders, who are all more powerful in Platinum, with the exception of one (Refer back to my guide on the Gym Leaders to see who!).
Here’s a quick breakdown of what your rival will be carrying in Platinum:
| If Your Starter is Turtwig | If Your Starter is Cimchar | If Your Starter is Piplup |
| Staraptor: Level 48 | Staraptor: Level 48 | Staraptor: Level 48 |
| Floatzel: Level 47 | Rapidash: Level 47 | Floatzel: Level 47 |
| Heracross: Level 48 | Heracross: Level 48 | Heracross: Level 48 |
| Roserade: Level 47 | Roserade: Level 47 | Rapidash: Level 47 |
| Snorlax: Level 49 | Snorlax: Level 49 | Snorlax: Level 49 |
| Infernape: Level 51 | Empoleon: Level 51 | Torterra: Level 51 |
So aside from Starraptor, every Pokemon drops by two levels. The toughest Pokemon in any variant of your opponent’s teams with be Staraptor and Snorlax. Staraptor has Close Combat which can put a hurting on you if you don’t have any Electric Type attacks and Snorlax is a straight up pain with its defensive abilities and its move set of Body Slam, Crunch, Earthquake and Rest. If I were you I’d go with something that has a fighting move and either the Pokemon Ability Levitate or a Flying Type. I can think of several fliers that can know Fighting attacks, can you?
Now here’s where things get tricky. Not only are levels all over the place in comparison to Diamond/Pearl, but you’ll find that the lineups have changed as well!
| D/P Version | Pokemon Platinum Version |
| Dustox: Level 53 | Yanmega: Level 49 |
| Beautifly: Level 53 | Scizor: Level 49 |
| Vespiqueen: Level 54 | Vespiqueen: Level 50 |
| Heracross: Level 54 | Heracross: Level 51 | Drapion: Level 57 | Drapion: Level 53 |
Aaron’s Pokemon look to be weaker at first glance due to the level change, but in fact the loss in levels is made up in the fact he has replaced Dustox and Beautifly with the superior Scizor and Yanmega. Both have better stats, moves and with Scizor, harder weaknesses to overcome. Dustox was always just one Psychic away from a knockout, but Scizor? You’re going to NEED a powerful Fire move to take him out. As always, Drapion is what will throw your game plan off, as it is not a bug type at all. Being a Poison and Dark Dual Type means Drapion is only weak to Ground attacks. You can use that same powerful Fire Pokemon to take out Yanmega and Vespiqueen, and it’ll be quite useful against Heracross as well.
| D/P Version | Pokemon Platinum Version |
| Quagsire: Level 55 | Gliscor: Level 53 |
| Sudowoodo: Level 56 | Rhyperior: Level 55 |
| Golem: Level 56 | Golem: level 52 |
| Whiscash: Level 55 | Whiscash: Level 50 |
| Hippowdon: Level 59 | Hippowdon: Level 52 |
Once again, we see a pretty solid drop in levels, especially with poor Hippowdon. However again two weaker Pokemon are replaced by two stronger ones, at least in stats. At first glance, you’re probably thinking, “One flying Pokemon and I’m safe.” Especially when I tell you that all the Pokemon but Whiscash know Earthquake. Well, that’s not exactly true seeing as how Golem and Gliscor know Electric attacks. To be honest, your best bet for many of these is a Pokemon with the Levitate ability and who knows Grass attacks. Grass is super effective on the three Pokemon that have remained from D/P to Platinum, and it’ll take down Rhypherior quickly as well. That just leaves Gliscor and its pesky Ground and Flying combination. Well Water is super effective and Ice does 4x damage. There are tons of Pokemon that are Water and Ice dual type or that have access to both moves. I’m sure you already have a particular favorite picked out.
| D/P Version | Pokemon Platinum Version |
| Rapidash: Level 58 | Rapidash: Level 53 |
| Steelix: Level 57 | Flareon: Level 55 |
| Drifblim: Level 58 | Houndoom: Level 52 |
| Lopunny: Level 57 | Magmortar: Level 57 |
| Infernape: Level 61 | Infernape: Level 55 |
Flint was always my least favorite of the bosses in D/P, mainly because he didn’t stick to his type. How are you a master of Fire Pokemon when only two of your Pokemon have the Fire type? He just felt thrown together in a sloppy fashion to help you complete your Pokedex. Not so in Platinum. Yes the Pokemon you have to deal with are lower in level, but at least the theme is consistent. Not only are the non-Fire Types gone, but you’ve got some tough opponents ahead of you. Thankfully you should know what to do with Fire Type Pokemon by now, right? Your biggest challenges here with be Flareon and Houndoom since they’re so offensive minded and you’re probably not expecting them. Magmortar though will disrupt your all Water, all the time strategy with its Thunderbolt and Solarbeam attacks. Rapidash also has Solarbeam and Infernape has Thunder punch, so if you’re going to use Water attacks, make sure they’re not solely by a Water Pokemon.
| D/P Version | Pokemon Platinum Version |
| Mr. Mime: Level 59 | Mr. Mime: Level 53 |
| Girafarig: Level 59 | Espeon: Level 55 |
| Medicham: Level 60 | Gallade: Level 59 |
| Alakazam: Level 60 | Alakazam: Level 56 |
| Bronzong: Level 63 | Bronzong: Level 53 |
We’re consistently seeing the Elite Four at lower levels in Pokemon Platinum than in Pokemon Diamond and Pearl. We also see Lucian trading in Girafarig and Medicham for Espeon and Gallade. I understand the recent push by The Pokemon Company to push Gallade as a first tier Pokemon, but I have to admit I liked see Girafarig, which is such an unusual Pokemon being used by the elite four. Espeon is often considered “Mewtwo Lite” so this will make Lucian even tougher. Almost all of Lucian’s Pokemon are weak to Ghost and Dark attacks save Bronzong whose only weakness is Fire. Psychic and Steel are often considered the two hardest types to defeat, so having them both in one Pokemon like Bronzong means you want to take it out quickly.
| Pokemon D/P Version | Pokemon Platinum Version |
| Spiritomb: Level 61 | Spiritomb: Level 58 |
| Roserade: Level 60 | Roserade: Level 58 |
| Gastrodom: Level 60 | Togekiss: Level 60 |
| Lucario: Level 63 | Lucario: Level 60 |
| Milotic: Level 63 | Milotic: Level 58 |
| Garchomp: Level 66 | Garchomp: Level 62 |
There’s only one change to Cynthia’s lineup, but it is a big one. She’s dropped her weak link in Gastrodom for one of the best new Pokemon in Togekiss. Thankfully this Togekiss’ moveset isn’t what it could be. It only knows Air Slash, Aura Sphere, Water Pulze and Shockwave. Hit it with hard Electric, Ice or Rock attacks, and it’ll be done for the count in no time. For the rest of Cyn’s Pokemon, just use the same strategy you used in Pokemon Diamond and Pearl and you’ll be fine. After all, they’re the same Pokemon at lower levels and thus weaker. You beat them once, you can easily do it again.
After that, congratulations, you’ve beaten Pokemon Platinum! Give yourselves a hand! Don’t get too cocky though, as the next time you face them, they’ll be far more powerful.
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omg ty!!! i was wondering if platniums elite four would be harder then d/p
i have trouble getting past cynthia her garchomp defetes my infernape wich is on level 93 all my other pokemon are like on level 31 and 40 and 59 how do i defete cynthia plz tell me
Kane, I would suggest raising some of your other Pokemon up a few levels. As Garchomp is a Ground/Dragon dual type, a strong Pokemon with a powerful Ice Type attack should take it Garchomp out for you. Try it and let me know how it works for you.
i need to past aaron plez tell me…!!
Max – A strong fire Pokemon is your best way to get past Aaron.
thanks for the intel now i can go and kick some elite four ass, thanks once again.
i cant kill spiritoom what is recommended
what levels are recommended? I have empoleon, staraptor, azelf, hippodown, luxray and an empty spot. my higest level is 55 with hippowdon. and whres good places to train? i nedd to train some more.
oh, whrers a good ghost or dark pokemon to beat lucian?
what are good recommended levels?
lw – you have a pretty good lineup from what I see. When I first beat this generation of games back with Pokemon Pearl, I had Empoleon, Starraptor and Luxray in my team as well.
Levels aren’t as important as a well balanced team and strong moves. if your team is in the upper 40’s to mid 50’s, you should be able to run through the Elite Four pretty easily.
If you’re looking for a good ghost, to beat Lucian I suggest Mismagius, although a Dark Pokemon like Honchkrow will do just as well. Stay away from the Gengar family if you’re looking for a Ghost Type to beat Lucian as they are part Poison and are thus weak to Psychic.
Ok, thanks alex lucard. i tried your tips, and now im up to cynthnia. i still need to get past her garchomp though… thanks ssooooooo much for the tips! :D
LW – a good ice attack will mow down garchomp as it is Dragon/Ground.
ok, thanks! would swinub/philoswine/mamoswine be good?
lw – that’s a fine Pokemon. Good luck!
No stratagy for Cynthia?
Meanie.
Spirtomb has no weakness, hit if with a few surfs of something.
Garchomp is level 62. Ouch. Hit it with some good ice moves. Ironicly, hit it with some dragon type moves, too.
Tokekiss is a flying/normal pokemon. Electric moves are good against them.
Lucario’s weakness is ice.. I think, and ground.
Roserade is easily damned by fire.
And milotic can be beat with an electric type move.
Remember, she’s smart. She’ll switch pokemon.
hi! I just compleated pokemon platinum with only EMPOLEON!! you can do this also if you train him to level 84, and have him learn Icebeam, Bubblebeam, (defog, not nessissary) and rock climb also not nessissariy, but handy)
honestly!! :) I did it!!
55 garachomp,55 infernape,55lucario 55 staraptor 55 quagsire, 55 giratina is that good enough to beat the elite 4
I have Infernape, Torterra, Gyrados and Drifblim..i have two spots open. What shouldd i fill them up with?
Ruin -You can pick whoever you want. That’s the great thing about Pokemon: there is no bad team. I would suggest an electric type and something with Dark, Ice, or Psychic moves, if not one of those types to give you a balanced team though.
ruin you should get an electric and ice and ur team would b awesome!!!!!!!!!!
i need a great ice type pokemon any good suggestions
Frostlass, Articuno, and Lapras are great choices.
I liked the challenge of the elite 4 in Platinum, i never played diamond or pearl but i found this group to be tough
I used:
Empoleon Lvl 56
Moves: Bubblebeam, Cut, Ice Beam, and Brine
Garchomp Lvl 50
Moves: Dragon Rush, Dragon Claw, Dig, and Slash
Giratina Lvl 55
Moves: Shadow Claw, Ancient Power, Dragon Claw, Heal Block
Azelf Lvl 51 ( i didn’t raise him much because i just needed him to take out Ryperior, golem, and hippo, you’ll see why by looking at his moves)
Moves: Swift, Grass Knot (potent attack to heavy Ground/rock types) Future Sight, and Extrasensory
Staraptor Lvl 54
Moves: Fly, Aeriel Ace, Brave Bird, Close combat
Luxray Lvl 54
Moves: Crunch, Bite, Thunderfang, and Spark
It also took a few revives and hyper potions.
i went through evry one of them with lv.54 lucario lv.64 empoleon and a lv.54 giratina. Good Luck! moves: Empoleon-surf*,waterfall, hydro pump, and drill peck. Giratina- ancient power, ominous wind, shadow force*, and dragon claw. Lucario- dragon pulse, reversal, aura sphere, and force palm.
Ruin: I suggest you use an Electric like Luxray (it’s a good in-gamer), Magnezone (can learn Magnet Rise, which will dodge Ground for 5 turns. SO useful, since its 400x effective), or Electivire (can learn Earthquake and other strong offensive moves), and a strong Pokemon like Weavile that can learn Dark/Ice moves that’ll be useful against a lot of Cynthia’s team.
Pie: Lucario > Ice. It’s part Fighting. Use your heavy Fire moves from Aaron, Ground or Fighting type moves.
hey every1 my teamis: infernape
moves: fire blast, fire punch, focus blast, grass knot
giratina
moves: charge beam, shadow force, strenth, ifoget the lst 1
and then im open 4 suggestions oh btw giratinas lvl 54 and infernapes lvl 75
plz plz help